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Post by DogGoneGood on May 2, 2008 10:44:09 GMT -5
Debate Rules:1. Keep it civil and mature! Everyone is intitled to thier opinion. No name calling etc. You are allowed to debate and have a differing opinion but try and keep it civil at the same time  2. No one sentance answers. (Ex: "I think it's wrong.") TTry to back up your opinion with thoughts, articles, website links etc. 3. Try to keep the topic from running off track. If it starts to go somewhere else you can start a new thread about whatever it's gone off track about Debate Question:What does everyone here think about those "Designer Dogs"?
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Post by rexandbaby on May 2, 2008 10:49:07 GMT -5
In another post I did say that I love mixed breeds. That is what designer dogs really are, and I don't like the fact that the "breeders" are asking so much money for them and actually getting paid. That said, I truly love some of the looks of some of them. Puggles for instance. I don't think that I would ever own one, (but maybe if it were given to me,  ) My biggest reason for not liking them is the cost that is put on them like they are purebreds. |
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Post by charmingnancy on May 2, 2008 13:58:57 GMT -5
It almost seems like some people are mating different breeds together just to make up a stupid name for them. Like, Peekapoo (Pekingese and Poodle), Labradoodle (Lab and Poodle), Cockapoo (Cocker Spaniel and Poodle), Schnoodle (Schnauzer and Poodle), and the list goes on. Why these people are mating anything with a foo-foo poodle is beyond me. The Bullshiht (Bulldog and Shih Tzu) is probably my favorite name.
They even created a hybrid club to recognized all these home made dog breeds. And that people put different breeds together and expect people to pay hundreds of dollars for them is just dumb. Those are mutts you're breeding, plain and simple.
Like I said before, I have 2 mixed breed dogs. Dawber is a Golden Retriever/Beagle mix. Would that make him a Reagle? Or a Golden Beaver? How about I just call him a mutt, I'm sure he won't be offended. Bo is a beagle mix, we don't know what he's mixed with.
Some people claim that mixed breeds are more intelligent than purebreds, and some people like the different physical characteristics of mixed breeds. My opinion, dogs are all different, looks, brains, and personality. A friend of my moms has 2 purebred
Golden Retrievers that are brothers, but one is a darker brown than the other, the darker one is a little bit bigger than the other, and they have different personalities.
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Post by DogGoneGood on May 2, 2008 14:39:39 GMT -5
I think the sad thing is that people are ACTUALLY getting duped into paying big bucks for a "new breed" that is actually, and clearly a mutt. Consumer demand is what keeps a "product" going and I'm sure if people realized you can get the same quality dog (if not better in some cases) straight out of the pound for way cheaper (PLUS you're saving a life!) there wouldn't be anyone still breeding designer dogs. Unfortunately though, people do fall for it. So these dogs are still being bred. They ARE mutts, plain and simple. People who try to argue that you get purebreeds out of mixing breeds together don't know much about dog breeding. YES to get a new breed you breed others together but it takes more than ONE generation to create a new breed. Not to mention that we already have so many breeds (litterly hundreds and hundreds) that each have their own use and skills that why would we need anymore? I've tried and tried and I can't possibly think of any use you would need out of a dog that doesn't already exist in some pre-existing breed. I understand WHY Designer Dogs were originally created, and I think the right intentions were there... but calling a mutt a purebred doesn't make it any less of a mutt. If I call a rose a tulip and convince a hundred people that the rose is in fact a tulip it doesn't actually make the rose turn into a tulip  With the pet overpopulation problem we have today, and the already existing problems with so many breeds due to poor breeding and high demand I really don't think anyone should be even attempting to make one new breed of dog, nevermind several. We need to clean up the problems at hand first before even considering it, and even then I'd still think it's a dumb idea |
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Post by nattiej1976 on May 5, 2008 3:00:07 GMT -5
My gripe is not the dog, every dog is capable of being a loved and fantastic addition to a family, my gripe is the price tag on their head.
I can not fathom the fact that there are people willing to pay higher than registered pure breed prices for a *said lovingly* mutt.
But it does go to show, that those buying the oodles of oodles at this high price may not be properly researching. Or either that dont care.
When we first looked at getting a dog one of our friends suggested a labradoodle, no qualms as a mix for me, but the fact that the local breeders of the labradoodles charge $1000 more than what we payed for Kato, an actual defined pure breed dog. I was not prepared to pay that price, if I wanted a lab X poodle pup i probably would have been able to go to local RSPCA and adopt one for a tiny portion of the cost of the "labradoodle". (and also know that this pup would have more likely to have had some basic health checking and vaccinations)
I feel that many of the disigner breeds is just an incubator for backyard breeders and millers, jumping on the latest "hot item".
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Post by DogGoneGood on May 6, 2008 15:26:27 GMT -5
I have no problem with the dogs themselves; it's not their fault! I do have a problem with ANYONE breeding mutts; regardless of if they have a high price, or they're FREE! In the end it doesn't matter what they're being named as or anything; the problem is that mutts should not be bred on purpose. I understand sometimes accidents happen (although they SHOULD be avoidable with the right ammount of effort) but it's those who are breeding them on purpose. Add in a high price and a "cute" name; claim that it's a purebred; and it just makes matters worse  |
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Post by rexandbaby on May 6, 2008 18:18:23 GMT -5
Man, that is the whole problem with "designer breeding"!!!!
If they just could say, maybe 50. bucks, most would want one, but when they are asking over $1000.00 for one, that is what gets me!
And Purebred??? Not likely!
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